tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post4331108077313319562..comments2024-03-19T09:45:12.928-04:00Comments on Hospice and Nursing Homes Blog: Death Rattle Sounds: Myth vs. Fact (Research, Video-Audio .44)Frances Shani Parkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13963810627889715839noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-57793307110537221562018-09-11T15:56:52.816-04:002018-09-11T15:56:52.816-04:00I extend sympathy to you. Keep in mind that resear...I extend sympathy to you. Keep in mind that research concludes that his level of consciousness and awareness of the experience you witnessed was very low. You may also want to discuss this further with a hospice nurse..Frances Shani Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13963810627889715839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-82592201781757625592018-05-22T11:01:30.032-04:002018-05-22T11:01:30.032-04:00My husband began this noisy breathing, also opened...My husband began this noisy breathing, also opened his eyes for first time, obviously trying desperately to breath thru mucous which he was no longer able to keep from clogging his windpipe, and this process was not only hideous to watch in this person I loved, but I could almost feel the panic in him. He mercifully stopped this struggle and died a few minutes later but the thot of him hvg to go thru this has left me in agony.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-88671527509691607352018-04-26T08:12:03.720-04:002018-04-26T08:12:03.720-04:00It is possible you may be reading too much into th...It is possible you may be reading too much into this incident, especially since you say your nana was a practicing Christian all her life. Your fear is understandable because watching someone die can be difficult at a very vulnerable time. I suggest that you focus more on many positive memories of your nana and not let negative interpretations of her death, which may never be confirmed, overshadow the goodness the two of you shared when she was alive. Surely, she would want this, and it would bring more peaceful closure for you. If you think you need more assistance in finding peaceful closure, consider getting grief counseling. A hospice organization in your area can assist you in finding this support. I wish you the very best as you move to a place of healing.Frances Shani Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13963810627889715839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-28919798156541660072018-04-26T05:54:46.566-04:002018-04-26T05:54:46.566-04:00Okay, I am having a real hard time with figuring s...Okay, I am having a real hard time with figuring something out. So, my Nana died a few days ago with myself present at her bedside. She was 90 years old and anyways she was doing the death rattle noise....which I expected, but then the most horrific thing happened....she tilted her head upwards, while her eyes popped almost out of her head (with full red-like veins showing) and then almost horror-movie demonic moaning...LOUD! I was so freaked out. It was beyond any death rattle. Seriously scary. It felt extremely demonic! I really need some help here.<br />Mind you I am a Christian and she spent her life in Catholic church, and I thought she was a Christian also??? But, now I am really second guessing...seriously it was very, very demonic and kreepy! I had to quickly turn on some Christian music and start praying....then she died. I am really freaked out...any advice is appreciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-22325451997018361032018-04-04T20:25:22.524-04:002018-04-04T20:25:22.524-04:00If your husband actually experienced the death rat...If your husband actually experienced the death rattle, it is possible that his consciousness was very low. I encourage you to get counseling to help you with your pain in adjusting to his death. I wish you the best.Frances Shani Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13963810627889715839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-10431385226223987282018-04-04T19:45:47.243-04:002018-04-04T19:45:47.243-04:00My husband has been sick for years but still funct...My husband has been sick for years but still functioned. I can home one day n his best was going up n down so hard. His rattening as horrible. He could speak very little n was awake. He died the next night. They intubated him in hospital. I canstill see the look in his eyes like help me. It was horrible n I keep seeing that. Did he know what was happening? I need to know if he was still there n suffering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-74054773374183516242018-03-14T15:51:14.130-04:002018-03-14T15:51:14.130-04:00Though it's not easy to speak about it, and as...Though it's not easy to speak about it, and as we are lubing it at the miment, your experience has answered my question. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-17907821202104255422017-09-10T15:37:40.299-04:002017-09-10T15:37:40.299-04:00Bobetta, only someone more familiar with your moth...Bobetta, only someone more familiar with your mother's case can answer that. I can say that all rattling is not the death rattle. If she is in hospice care, ask the nurse to assist you in understanding your mother's condition. I wish you and your mother the best.Frances Shani Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13963810627889715839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-66129645109750395432017-09-10T12:47:22.617-04:002017-09-10T12:47:22.617-04:00My mom is only rattling when she sleeps. Is that t...My mom is only rattling when she sleeps. Is that the same thing????Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176067095744729164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-54554086143519765752017-05-28T20:00:09.742-04:002017-05-28T20:00:09.742-04:00Stephanie, it is good that your father is in hospi...Stephanie, it is good that your father is in hospice care. I am not a professional medical person, so I hope you are requesting and receiving help from them. You have several concerns that they may be able to address, including medications and getting some respite care to give you some personal relief. It is expected as you stated that he will be getting weaker and weaker. His body is breaking down. He must be very proud of all your caregiving efforts. Hospice can also provide you with grief support if you need it after he dies. Know that I commend you for all you are doing and wish you the best. Frances Shani Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13963810627889715839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-31536921270638372082017-05-28T18:53:16.383-04:002017-05-28T18:53:16.383-04:00My father has been under hospice care for about 4 ...My father has been under hospice care for about 4 weeks. He had been septic from a necrotic toe and he refused to have it amputated. He also has congestive heart failure. He never has pain. He is lucid sometimes and dreaming others, sometimes hard to tell. His death rattle started a few days ago. He doesn't have any trouble communicating to me that he feels like he is choking. He tries to remove his oxygen. He doesn't like the hyoscyamine. He says it puts a film in his mouth and gives him dry mouth. He asks for water after he coughs up and he coughs up a lot. The morphine works well but he thinks I'm giving him too much. I give him 0.5 ml maybe once a day if he says he can't breath. The Lorazepam is awful. He doesn't get any restful sleep. He dreams constantly and calls out for me and says the strangest things. I quit giving him that. He hasn't eaten in a week or urinated in 2 days. He's completely awake between 12 and 6 a.m. Calls me every 30 minutes or so to reposition him in the bed. He is full of fluid in the upper body and getting weaker and more difficult to pull up to reposition.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04584395488012160391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-69754628988351429862017-03-18T01:33:25.207-04:002017-03-18T01:33:25.207-04:00Yes, the sounds were probably the death rattle. I ...Yes, the sounds were probably the death rattle. I hope the research-based information on this post has helped you in understanding the experience better. My condolences to you, Loriann, as you begin again on your continuing journey. Frances Shani Parkerhttp://www.francesshaniparker.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-34716849662271141072017-03-17T23:26:56.398-04:002017-03-17T23:26:56.398-04:00My mom died just seven days ago.The sounds prior t...My mom died just seven days ago.The sounds prior to her death still haunt me. It sounded like she was drowning now I know it was death rattlesAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07115733332097971555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-37911406048473248002017-03-06T02:43:46.361-05:002017-03-06T02:43:46.361-05:00Hi Vinay (I love your name~~),
I just wanted to s...Hi Vinay (I love your name~~), <br />I just wanted to say how sorry I am for your loss. How awful to be having to wonder such questions regarding your Mother... I am sorry for that as well. <br /><br />Know that I will pray for you. May you find comfort in the arms of our Savior, Jesus....Peace be with you~<br />Wendynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-5328188696298370572017-03-06T01:03:05.395-05:002017-03-06T01:03:05.395-05:00Vinay, it's impossible for me to know how your...Vinay, it's impossible for me to know how your mother died. You could ask a professional in the hospice healthcare field and that person may or may not know. I can only repeat to you what I have said to several others about death rattle and a low level of consciousness that greatly decreases pain. I extend my sympathy to you and encourage you to move forward as your mother would want you to do in celebration of her life.Frances Shani Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13963810627889715839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-31714694442717699322017-03-05T02:21:14.473-05:002017-03-05T02:21:14.473-05:00My mom had an accident in June, she had a total hi...My mom had an accident in June, she had a total hip replacement. First 2 months she was recovering very well, one day she couldn't get out from the bed, it was a very painful decline for her and she died 4 months later. tests showed she has a severe diabetes neuropathy and it had exacerbated due to the surgery. Before dying she had death rattle for 3 days, before the day of her death she had a very high temperature. she died while she was fed liquid food. did she die of chocking? or was it a slow death for her?Vinayhttps://login.yahoo.com/?.src=ym&.intl=in&.lang=en-IN&.done=https://mail.yahoo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-27550232957683780312017-02-14T13:03:44.250-05:002017-02-14T13:03:44.250-05:00I extend my sympathy to you on the passing of your...I extend my sympathy to you on the passing of your mother. I am not a medical professional, but I can tell you that, although the death rattle can be difficult to witness, a great deal of research supports that the patient's level of consciousness is so low that she does not experience pain on the level that observers may assume. Your response as a witness is common. You may also want to read about the experiences of others in the two links listed right below the video.<br /><br />It is important that you address the guilt you still feel. I hope you will get some professional assistance if this continues to upset you, perhaps through your hospice organization. That service is available. Your mother, who appreciated so much of your loving care during her illness, would want you to live your life with more positive memories of what you two shared.Frances Shani Parkerhttp://www.francesshaniparker.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-45771193713225722582017-02-14T06:15:28.307-05:002017-02-14T06:15:28.307-05:00Feeling guilty February 14, 2017
My mom passed a ...Feeling guilty February 14, 2017<br /><br />My mom passed a few days ago. She had a lot of illnesses going on, including myacena gravis (spell?) which is a rare desease. She seemed to be in pain, even though she was on morphine and then added ativan. She had the "death rattle" for 6 days. I had heard the rattle in my grandma's death, but my moms was so much worse. It sound like she was choking to death. She could not swallow, but hospice still had us giving liquid meds through the mouth every hour. She kept gathering very thick secretions and choking. We tried to remove it with very little success. When she finally passed the solid secretions came of of her mouth a lot. Anyone else have this happen. I feel so guilty because the whole purpose was to keep her pain free. I feel I choked her to death. It was horrible! I just wanted her to pass fast, so she wouldn't be in anymore pain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-19523080344172784142016-12-12T09:52:37.176-05:002016-12-12T09:52:37.176-05:00Robin.....I am sorry to hear about your mother. Pl...Robin.....I am sorry to hear about your mother. Please know that I am praying for your comfort and strength at this difficult time. Thank you SO MUCH for sharing your info regarding "The Comfort Pack", I'm sure reading what you took the time to write will be then be implemented by many who have found it. May the good Lord bless you as you heal, and may Peace be with you~~A Thankful Wifenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-77810675015879019622016-12-12T02:21:48.017-05:002016-12-12T02:21:48.017-05:00I extend my sympathy to you and your family, Robin...I extend my sympathy to you and your family, Robin. Thank you for sharing your story. I can only say that a body of research supports that the patient does not experience pain on the level that observers may assume. Perhaps a nurse or doctor reading this blog and familiar with what you explained can respond to your concerns, particularly regarding use of a "comfort pack."<br /><br />Frances Shani Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13963810627889715839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-37960871716761653382016-12-11T19:42:38.389-05:002016-12-11T19:42:38.389-05:00My mom just passed away 9 days ago she had the dea...My mom just passed away 9 days ago she had the death rattle we bag the nurse to give her more medicine and to ease her she replied that she's not in any pain. I knew something wasn't right the sound was so loud and lasted four hours. I begged the nurse to give her something she said it was a protocol. Bull the more I look into it they should've given her Ativan hours before to relax her but they waited. Finally when they gave it to her the sound subsided there was still a death rattle but not as severe she died 20 minutes later I'm mad because she struggled for 4 hours and no one can say that she wasn't in pain . if I can give any advice I would demand anxiety medicine and ask about "comfort pack" that every hospice place should offer it holds all the meds the ease the patient . We never knew about any of this. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-91194988581722904142016-12-06T23:09:44.305-05:002016-12-06T23:09:44.305-05:00To A Thankful Wife:
You and your husband are goin...To A Thankful Wife:<br /><br />You and your husband are going through a lot now, and it is important for you to stay centered on your faith, professional medical advisement, and what’s really important for your husband’s quality of life. Medically, you are concerned about his declining mental state, lack of cooperation regarding his own care, and his "gurgling” with the death rattle for years. I am not professionally trained to assist you with his medical issues, but I hope you will continue to work with those who can and encourage your husband to do so as well. <br /><br />I can say, however, that I have not heard of the actual death rattle lasting for years. Wikipedia, a free online encyclopedia, reports that, while the death rattle is a strong indication that someone is near death, this sound can also be produced by other problems that cause interference with the swallowing reflex. Medical professionals providing care to your husband and who are familiar with his case can probably explain to you further his specific health issues. <br /><br />You say you have known for many years that the time would come when you would survive your husband and that you have been “grieving that day in advance.” You also say you have “NO DOUBT that He (Jesus) would lead me through it all” and that you and your husband “shall rejoice again in Heaven.” Keep holding on and reminding yourself of that peace. Knowing and believing all of this should strengthen you through this period. <br /><br />Death is a normal part of life that everyone must experience. Imagine the joy you and your husband will know later. If you need more counseling or support from the medical profession, don’t hesitate to request it. I hope these words have been helpful. Know that I wish you and your husband the best on this journey and beyond.<br />Frances Shani Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13963810627889715839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-15591236161501708292016-12-06T02:53:03.319-05:002016-12-06T02:53:03.319-05:00Wow, this is difficult to write!It saddens me grea...Wow, this is difficult to write!It saddens me greatly that I am on this site, reading all of this. I am concerned that my dear husband's time may possibly be near and I'm trying to learn what to watch out for. Thank you for your mixture of education and gracious kindness, Frances. May the good Lord bless you for showing love to all of us the way you do.<br /><br />My husband is 83 years old, I am 55. We've been married 28 years. I knew way back then that the time may come when, according to general natural chronology, I would survive him. Seems like I've spent the better part of our marriage quietly grieving that day in advance. It's both strangely disconcerting and comforting as I've often wondered what will happen and how I will handle it.<br /><br />One thing is for sure:<br />He and I accepted Jesus as our Personal Savior 20 years ago and have been quite involved with Him ever since. I have absolutely NO DOUBT that He would lead me through it all, as He did when I went through cancer treatment. (I am currently in remission, Praise Him!~~) That comfort and strength that my husband and I draw from God means everything. According to the Bible, I and my husband KNOW, WITHOUT ANY DOUBT, that we shall rejoice again in Heaven, so our parting would be not "goodbye", but "see ya later!". There is much peace regarding that.<br /><br />I write because I have a medical question, actually. My dear husband has very bad COPD from cigarettes (he quit 20 years ago. He wouldn't listen to reason prior). He's in fairly poor health in general. Lately, I feel like I am watching his weak and frail body get worse and worse quickly and it concerns and saddens me.<br /><br />The COPD has given him off and on (mainly every several days,.back and forth) FOR YEARS what sounds like The Death Rattle. He takes chest congestion medication and it subsides. He stops the meds, it returns! <br /><br />He says that is "in his throat" almost every time we discuss it. <br /><br />The other night I was getting nervous because he'd been sleeping an awful lot lately and wound up "absolutely freezing,..can't get warm!" While I have been noticing lately that his mental faculties are forgetting things more and more often, that night was different. There was a new confusion about him all night. I practically MADE him use his oxygen (he always says that he doesn't need it. I think he does~~)' His mental status seemed to be a bit better the next morning. His throat and chest still sounds TERRIBLE, can't get him to see the Doctor as he's been in and out of the hospital with pnuemonias in the past and I believe he'd rather be sick,.and possibly die, at home.<br /><br />Now I read all of what is said about The Death Rattle. What should I make of all of this in his case, please?? I routinely ask the Lord for peace....that "gurgling", as I've called it, makes me anxious, altho' I've heard it for YEARS! Can someone be dying that slowly and only be making that awful sound?? I find that I watch him and his health like a hawk, staying with him when I have the opportunity to go out if he is not feeling well, as several times I've had to call 911 immediately and it came out of nowhere!<br /><br />PLEASE, help me understand what I'm dealing with here.<br />Thank you, and know that God is using you in mighty ways!<br />Peace be with you~~A Thankful Wifenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-58965399857566509212016-09-28T18:50:59.390-04:002016-09-28T18:50:59.390-04:00I extend my sympathy to you and your family. You m...I extend my sympathy to you and your family. You may never know what was going through your mother's mind while she was dying. But you do say you think, "She died in peace." Those words and all the researched-based information explained about the painlessness of the death rattle should put your mind at ease. For more insight, please view the two links listed below the above video. They will take you to two posts on dying, the death rattle, and comments of many other readers who have witnessed that experience. Frances Shani Parkerhttp://www.francesshaniparker.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2417858178588416830.post-58549281178129403332016-09-28T16:03:26.232-04:002016-09-28T16:03:26.232-04:00My mom just passed last week of a sudden illness (...My mom just passed last week of a sudden illness (small cell carcinoma). She was put into hospice for only 12 hours before she died, and the morning of her death, she seemed extremely distressed. She asked at one point, "What is that rattle in my chest?" I asked the hospice nurse to help calm her. She gave her something for the rattle, plus some morphine and ativan to calm her, and then my mom closed her eyes and died. Because everything was so sudden, I am haunted by this rattle, and by my mom's distress. Was she afraid she wasn't going to be able to breath? It seemed like she had a panic attack, which is what she had to be calmed from. She was very alert but her body was shutting down very quickly - right before my eyes. She died in peace, I think, but I would sure love some insight. Thanks. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12542555709290657805noreply@blogger.com